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well i was at home and i wonder what would happen if you used a blade on  zombies.

well i used some hard High C jugs and the soft milk jugs and picked out my wakizashi and started 1st with a coming down on the head shot.  the water was all over the place and some got in my mouth.  after 3 jugs i was wet all the way.

I learn that if you use a sword or any blade on a zombie if it has any blood in it get ready to get blood over yourself. Painters overall would be go to wear over your cloths with a ski mask and goggles to. with those jugs i did not think the water was going to get over me like that.

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Milk jugs are not an accurate thing to practice with when testing the blood/gore factor of using a kniofe against zombie. Our bodies are more than just jugs of water, and you have to account for bone muscle and other tissue that may prevent all of the splatter.

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and blood is thicker than water...


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Plus the fact that jugs of water just sit there and dont fight back. Also, why would you ever want to get into a melee with something that is a walking vector for disease, especially with a knife? Unless you want to put your knife in an autoclave afterwards, its going to be contaminated, and so will you, for getting splatter on you.


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Maybe he's practicing for a date with UHE?
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And depending on the zombies, the blood could be coagulated and partially dried, therefore leaving less liquid blood to be splattered.

But that's pretty unrealistic, and I imagine that a real infected person/zombie would probably be drooling as well as bleeding. Basically, swords or melee weapons are an absolute last option for full frontal combat. Assassination is one thing, but if you are facing more than one, or one that is actively pursuing you, I wouldn't expect a melee weapon would feel comforting (though it could certainly do the job in the right hands). 

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"assisination" someone plays halo


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"assisination" someone plays halo 


Sorry to break it to ya, but the word "assassination" has been around before video games. Then again, what would I have expected from a high schooler, I suppose.

If you think melee weapons don't have their place in a ZPAW, you're sorely mistaken. Not everyone will want to draw attention to themselves with firearms every time. If there are single zeds that need to be dispatched quietly, I see no reason not to use a melee weapon to neutralize the threat. 

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all very good points.  All i have are my short sword, Heavy Machetes and sword Machete and if the zombies were to come today that all i would have tell i found a gun.  I have had  unopen cans, fuirts and other stuff tross at me to learn how to hit a moveing target with my baldes. 60% of the time i can cut a grapefruit in half that was throw at me with my sword  up and ready.  I have killed a  snake with my machete sword that was in a tree near me.

I not a sword man but i would call myself a mad-man with a machete.  Now if 2 or more zombie were comeing at me i would show my running skills off.

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I personally don't trust any "authentic" Japanese swords people insist they can go all Benny Hanna crouching wannabe hidden ninja on people with, I don't even trust the old and very real WW2 Japanese officer sword I have.
I'll stick with mr trusty aka the entrenching tool, it's vastly more versatile than anything else (when was the last time you cooked a meal on a crowbar Mr. Brooks) 
I'm not going to stick anything "infected" in the head at CQ range unless its a final option as the head is a major bleeder, hell it's spurt on you and the object also tends to "stick" as the skull isn't exactly paper.

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im only messin ZH, ive just never heard Assasinate used to mean sneak up behind someone to kill them until halo.


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im only messin ZH, ive just never heard Assasinate used to mean sneak up behind someone to kill them until halo.


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Deadliest warrior can give you a more realistic impression of what happens. A jug of water when hit will explode, top pop off water everywhere. A human body will actually work better at holding in blood unless you hit an artery in a way it will spray directly at you. Not to say wearing all that stuff is a bad idea as you will end up with some form of gore on you. Now, the arterial spray only works on say 28 days later monsters because their hearts are still pumping. On an undead victim if there is no pulse, there is no flow and if there is no flow the blood will probably be congealed and clumpy with probably 80 percent less water content then now, due also to the fact the zombie is no longer giving water to its blood it will probably be even more of a thicker fluid than that. Fresh zombies vice versa's blood will probably be still fluid like.

Another way to avoid too much splatter would be either a blunt weapon or a stab weapon. slashing while tearing through hundreds of capillaries and larger arteries and veins and creating a larger area for all of it to spill out, a stab to the head which you are going for will leave a smaller hole and if you make sure its a blade with an airchannel there will be less risk of a suction pull out dragging infected material to your face. On dead flesh this will probably be less of an issue as the flesh won't be nearly as springy.

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im only messin ZH, ive just never heard Assasinate used to mean sneak up behind someone to kill them until halo.


Seriously? That's how it was always done until we created firearms, my man. I guess you probably think of JFK-esque assassinations or something. But I think most of the time, old-school assassinations were done with small knives or similar tools. I think it was Chinese assassins (not sure of the origin) that would use a long thin needle-like blade and stick it through the base of your skull from behind. So I assume that's why Halo calls them "assassinations," because essentially, I suppose they ARE assassinations. Most historical assassinations were close-quarters.

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I just figured it meant killing someone important.


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Well usually someone who gets assissnated was someone who someone else PAID to get offed. 

So usually it was somone important.

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Someone mentioned using blunt weapons to reduce splatter. Not true. Blunt force trauma creates ALOT of splatter. especially blunt blows to the head.


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I'm way late to the conversation, I don't play Halo, and my opinion doesn't mean shit but I'm gonna give it anyway. 

I tend to think of someone important when I hear "assisination" as well.  When I think about a close quarter, 1 on 1 killing, I think "execution" regardless of weapon or person killed.

In my world, an assasination can be done execution style but cutting some regular Joe's head off is just an execution. 




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