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Tom Cruises new movie is the reason it wont be out next month.
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Fuck Tom Cruises new movie. Jack Reacher is 6'5 feet tall and 250lbs....

I hope it flops I hope it bombs so hard that Tom Cruise stops making movies. I want Jack Reacher to collapse on itself, I hope its story is so bad it breaks on its own egomanic of an actor.

Sorry, bean reading the Jack Reacher novels since I was 13 and I own all the books. It is not just Tom Cruise either, what they are doing for the entire character is a sham. He doesn't drive well in his own words "an average driver" he is an ex-MP that got out during a time when they were making the army smaller and travels the country on foot, bus, train and hitch hiking keeping wrapped up in different scenarios in each book where his MP expertise helps him. I can't tell in the trailer but in the beginning they said they were going to make him a house and car owner which Reacher abhores.

I might be proven wrong when I see it (besides Tom Cruise's drastic size difference), if it is truer to the books I might not mind but I am seriously doubting with the way Hollywood treats a lot of book movies.Jack Reacher has been a great anti-hero for me for the last 10 years so I hope they are at least true to the characters. 

Sorry rant over . WWZ= good zombie movie WWZ not equal a good book transfer movie

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So Jack reacher cant do most of that shit?
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Most of what? 

The fight scenes are too acrobatic when Reacher wins more with strength and size. The books are more mystery/thrillers yeah there are fights but most are trying to figure out what happened. I also think of the series that One shot isn't the best to start with, One Shot being the book that the movie copies its plot from.

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Just saw the WWZ trailer on youtube...which left me with more questions than anything. From what I remember of the book - where do they sprint? And knock buses over? And climb walls like a pillar of ants? All while sprinting? IMHO, it doesn't look like they stayed true to the book at all, which is a big disappointment.  Don't get me wrong I still plan on going to see it -  I just hope that the difference isn't as bad as it looks! I really hope this isn't another Starship Troopers - where the book rocked, but the movie was only so-so.
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For SOB regarding Jack Reacher:

http://collider.com/jack-reacher-featurette/214617/#more-214617

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If it had been open casting someone more suited would have gotten the role, but Cruise's production company bought the rights so he basically inserted himself as the lead. And someone in the comments made it right they made it a PG-13 movie, the books are anything but PG-13 and some of the scenes are almost Adult Only. I don't know if any of you have read the books, but I've read all 16 over the last 8-9 years. It'd be like if they put 50 cent in as Thomas. We all have this image of the characters and movies generally do a good job of fitting roles to people.

 6'5 250 lb blonde haired intimidating presence compared to Tom Cruise average height and build normal presence. I am still going to see the movie and will be the first to voice the pros and cons. Some people say size doesn't matter but when you have a 9 year image of a character for it to be completely broken its hard to get around. My wife who has never read the books thinks the movie doesn't even look that good. We will see I guess, I just don't want to get my hopes up and have them crumbled by more than just the size difference.

I don't really like Tom Cruise all that much to begin with either, so yes my opinion is a little skewed. I see he doesn't own anything which is already a plus since in the beginning they were going to do something like that. We shall see.

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Looks like Dawn of the Dead remake writ large. I like it.
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World War Z coming out this week. I am surprised nobody has mentioned this.

I am looking forward to seeing it. I read the book years ago so hopefully it won't influence how I view the movie. 

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World War Z coming out this week. I am surprised nobody has mentioned this.

I am looking forward to seeing it. I read the book years ago so hopefully it won't influence how I view the movie. 
from all ive heard it has nothing to do with the book other than borrowing the title.

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from all ive heard it has nothing to do with the book other than borrowing the title.


to me that a good thing. the book had too much criticism government ineptitude, corporate corruption, human short-sightedness, anti gun and many other things.  Like the battle of yonkers I might be getting this wroung, but why if i am up in a helicopter gun ship or in a tank would i be freaking out and clashing my vehicle because the man on the ground are getting killed by zombies? I would be like " this is why i joined the air force".  I did not like WWZ book and the moive looks more like left 4 dead then suck ass WWZ.




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Well, if you don't have a secure ground base, finding a good place to land that chopper is gonna suck.  Ever been in a tank...you can grind over so many bodies or other debries before the road wheels get chocked up...and if you pop a link on that tread (which goes around the road wheels), someone's gotta get out and fix it and that 's not a 5 minute job.  So...not giving a shit over the grunts on the ground will just mean you have less support.  Don't forget fuel, that whirley bird and armor can only go so long....again, without ground troops to secure and support you...and vice versa, your dead too.  It's about teamwork.      Unless your on the detail for burning the shit from the outhouses, then your on your own. 
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Well I saw the movie last night and liked it in spite of too many contrived plot devices. I Especially liked the style of zombie. They seemed to have a fresh approach as to how they looked and acted.

I could do a lot of nit picking as to how they handled the story but I'll save that till more of you see it.  

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[QUOTEWell, if you don't have a secure ground base, finding a good place to land that chopper is gonna suck. Ever been in a tank...you can grind over so many bodies or other debries before the road wheels get chocked up...and if you pop a link on that tread (which goes around the road wheels), someone's gotta get out and fix it and that 's not a 5 minute job. So...not giving a shit over the grunts on the ground will just mean you have less support. Don't forget fuel, that whirley bird and armor can only go so long....again, without ground troops to secure and support you...and vice versa, your dead too. It's about teamwork. Unless your on the detail for burning the shit from the outhouses, then your on your own. ]
what?? i was just saying there were in a full rout and i don't see anyway a pilot in the sky that knows he is safe would freaking out and clash into the ground like that and not just fall back like they were ordered to.(yeah, i looked it and he crashed because his  helicopter's blades hit a wrecked car) It's just the book had A LOT of things in it i find very hard to believe like the tactics.

anyways in the WWZ movie i hear they base the mass zombie movements on how ant swarms or a masses bird flock.  They said something like there zombies were flesh zombies and that why they are so fast(like the left 4 dead zombies) were there just shambling like reg zombies mode and then when they see you they go into full attack mode running you down.

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what?? .


What I meant to say was


Kill them, kill them all!

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I think the problem I had with the movie was that I basically missed a good quarter of it not being able to hear and getting distracted like crazy.  That is what i get for going back to the drive in for the first time in like 20 years.

Plus there were way too many holes IMO.  That may change if I can actually watch the movie in its entirety without fear of getting run over and my constand glaring at people who pulled in 20 minutes into the movie and parked right in front of us.

I was also not a huge fan of the way to beat them device they used.

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I heard they were planning a second movie.... Maybe a trilogy.
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Only seen 60 mins of it as the Cinema projector went kapoot. Personally I thought it was shit if it was meant to be World War Z. But as a Zed film, the 60 I saw wasn't bad. I loved the South Korea part, I wanted more of it.

Id off killed Pitts kids for all the screaming and not listening and thrown his dumb bitch of wife overboard for phoning him. 

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I heard they were planning a second movie.... Maybe a trilogy.
That would be surprising news if it wasn't for the fact that alot of movies seem to be doing that lately if they are able. Keeps em from having to think of new ideas and lets milk it for as long as possible.

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I'm sure Max Brooks would be thrilled to see more movies based off his book.  I hear he wasn't too thrilled with the multiple rewrites and changes in story.  That's why I'd be real hesitant to see Z's books made into movies, that some director would totally change the plot to something that has the same name as the book but is completely different in outcome.
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I'm sure Max Brooks would be thrilled to see more movies based off his book.  I hear he wasn't too thrilled with the multiple rewrites and changes in story.  That's why I'd be real hesitant to see Z's books made into movies, that some director would totally change the plot to something that has the same name as the book but is completely different in outcome.


I feel for the authors of these books that get made into movies that don't come close to resembling the story.......on the other hand they have to know it's going to be rewritten into an unrecognizable form and just laugh all the way to the bank....provided they had a good agent/attorney before they signed the rights away.  

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saw it today. I knew it would be different from the book in some way, cause the interview way the book is written would be very hard to get most of it in and keep a flowing movie. so I went in with an open mind. I am still not a big fan of fast zombies- fast infected living, like in 28 days later, are fine, but zombies should be slow. so personal bias aside I did enjoy it. Seemed like only a bit of the book was used, and they changed some things LIKE MAKING THEM FAST!!!!!~!!!!!!!!!!!...........sorry had to get that out of my system.  but yeah I did enjoy it, and it had some very cool things, like the fucked up way that guy died getting on the plane, I loved that.( I am trying to avoid spoilers so keeping it vague) and they kept it pretty fast paced so it made it easy to overlook  little things.
The only real problem that still bothers me is the infection incubation time. I felt it was Wayyyyyyyyyy to short. to short to cause a global outbreak so quickly. I mean how would it get across the ocean that fast, planes are the only way and when is the last time you made it through airport security in 12 seconds, or 5 minutes.

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 when is the last time you made it through airport security in 12 seconds, or 5 minutes.


Good point. 

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To be honest.. the way the zombies were and everything I kinda feel reminiscent of Z's zombies with morningstar. In fact switching some of the stuff around this could have been a decent Plague of the Dead movie ironically enough.

But yeah decent zombie movie over all; bad world war z movie

Oh and about incubation times; they did say in the movie that 5 percent of the human race just didn't show symptons but still carried the virus or whatever it was.

See it if you want a decent non-gory zombie flick; if you want an actual World War Z movie; avoid at all costs

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See it if you want a decent non-gory zombie flick; if you want an actual World War Z movie; avoid at all costs
That was another flaw with the movie its pg-13 rating. This is why instead of being the horde who tears people apart like usual zeds. Instead were "driven" to propagate their " species" by biting people once and then moving on.

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