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Meh this would have worked better as a mini series instead of a movie there just too much going on in the book to compress into a hour and half or two hour movie.
Which mean we prolly wont get the awesome scenes of the Russians retaking the motherland with t-34 tanks and human wave attacks or the US army advancing in massive line up and down the north american coast killing zeds with civil war style line formations and fulsides
 
Plus the cgi Zeds look weird

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Still.....looks like a must see for me. 
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My personal opinion is that Brad Pitt's production company (Plan B) just picked this up and produced it because it is going to be a cash cow for them. It uses Brad Pitt's bankability (always worth the gamble at the box office) along with a very popular zombie novel (World War Z) to cash in on the ever-present zombie craze. No doubt it'll make its money back at the box office with high schoolers and young adults. 

Judging from the trailer (which admittedly gives little-to-no information on the film), the film likely shares almost no plot with the book, which happened to be an insightful venture into possible realities of a ZPAW. The film seems more reminiscent of a large-scale zombie/panic/catastrophe film not unlike "2012" with John Cusack. Only this one seems to feature some kind of avalanchey, group-think zombies. 

Even with all that nay-saying on the board, I hope it's a good film. I don't want it to fail. Even though it appears to be grossly unlike the novel for which it's named after, that doesn't mean it can't be a legitimate film in and of itself. So hopefully it's good. But my personal (and very unprofessional) take on the first trailer is that it's not panning out to be a great movie. 

Here's to hoping it's worth it, in the name of WWZ and all things Zed!

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Looks like those running zombies. I hate those...
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Looks like those running zombies. I hate those...


I'm a traditionalist that way too. But I don't think you can make a big budget movie with shamblers anymore. The masses just don't understand
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Looks like those running zombies. I hate those...
I'm a traditionalist that way too. But I don't think you can make a big budget movie with shamblers anymore. The masses just don't understand


I just hate them. Death isn't a super power! Besides...the fast ones could outrun and catch you! They don't have the limitations that a ordinary living person would. At least with the shamblers you can put some distance between yourself and them if possible.

What about CGI? If you can't use a mass of "zombie actors" and it looks like the film is relying heavily on it. I admit that bus scene looked cool. That may be Yonkers....however the rest of the shots look like a sprawling mess

I hope its ok as previously mentioned...they strayed away from the plot of the book. I will still see it just because it is a zombie flick and besides...there are worse zombie movies out there (RE, ZOMBIE DIARIES)

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Looks like those running zombies. I hate those...
I'm a traditionalist that way too. But I don't think you can make a big budget movie with shamblers anymore. The masses just don't understand


I just hate them. Death isn't a super power! Besides...the fast ones could outrun and catch you! They don't have the limitations that a ordinary living person would. At least with the shamblers you can put some distance between yourself and them if possible.

What about CGI? If you can't use a mass of "zombie actors" and it looks like the film is relying heavily on it. I admit that bus scene looked cool. That may be Yonkers....however the rest of the shots look like a sprawling mess

I hope its ok as previously mentioned...they strayed away from the plot of the book. I will still see it just because it is a zombie flick and besides...there are worse zombie movies out there (RE, ZOMBIE DIARIES)
and to think they made a sequel of that

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My brother bought ZD2... It's patiently waiting for a sunny day to be blown away at my private range.
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My brother bought ZD2... It's patiently waiting for a sunny day to be blown away at my private range.
Man that gave me quite the laugh let me tell you.

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It depends on the context, for me. I dislike running zombies if they are, in fact, zombies (that is, deceased individuals). Though if we're dealing with people infected with some kind of brain-boiling illness/disease like rabies, I have no problem with running zeds, a la 28 Days Later. Z did a good job with these as well, specifically marking the differences between living, infected zombies and the dead, reanimated zombies. 

My personal preference is for the savage, sprinting, infected people that so often are called zombies. I think they're more difficult to deal with and are thus provide a much more serious/intense threat. The only thing dead shamblers have going for them is large numbers. And as is evidenced in The Walking Dead, it seems very, very illogical when they somehow show up out of nowhere and corner you, because you can see them coming a mile away if you look for them. They only surprise you when you guard is REALLY down. So in the prison, when they turn a corner where there were previously no zombies and all the sudden they're everywhere, you can see how contrived that is. At those points in the show I just have to pretend that it makes sense. That kind of stuff just wouldn't happen if they actually looked.

So I find the sprinters to be a real threat because they are, at all times, really a threat. Squaring off with them one-on-one would seriously make me shit myself. 

Of course, if we're talking about which we would rather face in real life, I, without a doubt, would say shamblers, like any other reasonable person would. If I have to survive, fuck sprinters. I would get my ass destroyed if a 28 Days Later-esque rage virus broke out. 

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Looks like those running zombies. I hate those...


It depends on the context, for me. I dislike running zombies if they are, in fact, zombies (that is, deceased individuals). Though if we're dealing with people infected with some kind of brain-boiling illness/disease like rabies, I have no problem with running zeds, a la 28 Days Later. Z did a good job with these as well, specifically marking the differences between living, infected zombies and the dead, reanimated zombies. 

My personal preference is for the savage, sprinting, infected people that so often are called zombies. I think they're more difficult to deal with and are thus provide a much more serious/intense threat. The only thing dead shamblers have going for them is large numbers. And as is evidenced in The Walking Dead, it seems very, very illogical when they somehow show up out of nowhere and corner you, because you can see them coming a mile away if you look for them. They only surprise you when you guard is REALLY down. So in the prison, when they turn a corner where there were previously no zombies and all the sudden they're everywhere, you can see how contrived that is. At those points in the show I just have to pretend that it makes sense. That kind of stuff just wouldn't happen if they actually looked.

So I find the sprinters to be a real threat because they are, at all times, really a threat. Squaring off with them one-on-one would seriously make me shit myself. 

Of course, if we're talking about which we would rather face in real life, I, without a doubt, would say shamblers, like any other reasonable person would. If I have to survive, fuck sprinters. I would get my ass destroyed if a 28 Days Later-esque rage virus broke out. 


I should have clarified. You hit it on the head though. I don't mind the infected fried brain runners. As far as a deceased person...the decomposition would slow them down. Depending how fresh they are I guess.....But you really pointed out how real of a threat srpinters are.....Rule #1 Cardio....I'm doomed!

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Hey RCS....Make me a promise..........When you shoot it...........Make sure there is nothing left!!

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Better take off, nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Oh, whoops, the original topic!

I've yet to read World War Z. I tried, but couldn't really get into it; the book was too dry. That said, I'm looking forward to a big-budget action/zombie movie. And as far as the adaptation aspect... like I've said before (for adaptations I actually care about) the book is the book, and the movie is the movie, and should never the twain meet, I'll remain unsurprised, and will endeavor to get over it and enjoy the movie for what it is: one step closer to zombies being the mainstream again.

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They're already the mainstream again, my friend!

The main issue for me is that I'm bummed that they're using the WWZ name to sell this movie. It's obviously NOT World War Z (which I'm okay with, as I don't think they would ever make a good movie of it anyway), so I feel that they should have just gone another route with the name, and shouldn't have squandered the movie rights for something that's not much related. Zombies are a big sell right now, and they most likely would have a big box office turnout on its own, especially with Brad Pitt. 

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It makes me wonder. How many stories (survivor accounts?) are included in WWZ, and were any of those adapted for inclusion? Hmm.
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Yeah I imagine they'll include a few. Maybe a couple. Maybe just one. Maybe loosely adapted, maybe very accurately, who knows. Like you alluded to, all we can do is wonder since the trailer is incredibly vague. But there are maybe 20 perspectives in the book, from a blind Japanese man in the mountains of Japan to astronauts who viewed it from space, and everything in between, for real. So no matter who it follows, it'll relate to someone in the film because the book is very broad in scope. But the fact that the film follows one guy through his journey of the zombie panic already shows that it's a departure from the book. It may be following one of the many people interviewed in the book, but I have my doubts about that. 

And like any adaptation, one has to value the movie on it's own. Comparison to the book is, 95% of the time, going to entirely taint the film experience and take away from what could be, because a 2 hour film just can't replicate the level of detail in a 500+ page book. But I view this situation as something that really isn't even comparable to a normal book-to-film adaptation. It's just too different. If I remember correctly, the zombies in the book were shamblers? Obviously in the film they are very fast, hive-minded predators. 

And somewhat ironically, I'm not a fan of the Zombie Survival Guide at all, never liked it. But I like WWZ as a novel. I found it to be pretty insightful and interesting if not entirely genre-bending. Stuff like political and religious aftermath and things of that sort were even in it. It's a good read if you can get into it. What I like is that it kind of expounds on the genre, in a world where there was, really, a global war against a threat that no one would've thought possible. And people from all walks had different experiences, so it's not just repetitive battle sequences, but philosophical input as well.

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The main issue for me is that I'm bummed that they're using the WWZ name to sell this movie. It's obviously NOT World War Z (which I'm okay with, as I don't think they would ever make a good movie of it anyway), so I feel that they should have just gone another route with the name, and shouldn't have squandered the movie rights for something that's not much related. Zombies are a big sell right now, and they most likely would have a big box office turnout on its own, especially with Brad Pitt. 


I think they could have pulled off making WWZ almost exactly like the book.  The only problem IMO would be the ending.  Movies need a twist/cliff hanger or a good climax.  The way the book was written does not leave a lot of room for this.

The interviews would go exactly like in the book except when the person is telling the story they flash back each time and show the unraveling from multiple angles.

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Unless the finished product has more believable zeds, you can count me out.  While I'm more of a fan of the "classic" shambling zombie, I can enjoy running zombies.  I never expected them to follow the book to the tee, (they could have only come close to that with a mini-series).  However, when you make them faster and stronger than any human could possibly be, you lost me.  It just seems like the film makers didn't think their story line had enough to it do build suspense.  So, they had to make the zombie hoard into some sort of super zombie tidal wave on crack. 


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I suppose it would have to be somewhat like Cloud Atlas in that regard, with multiple protagonists over the timeline. Of course, Hollywood has a big issue with that. Cloud Atlas was an awesome movie, but it tanked at the box office because no one has the patience for it. People walked out of the theater when I was there (and the movie was rife with great acting, writing, and production). Everyone wants a linear story. It's total BS, but that's how the market is. Which is very likely why they seemingly turned WWZ into a single linear story. Zombies are a hot sell right now and I don't think Hollywood is going to risk a top dollar investment with an experimental undertaking. 

That being said, I agree that it could be done. I just don't think it ever will. 

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They're already the mainstream again, my friend!

The main issue for me is that I'm bummed that they're using the WWZ name to sell this movie. It's obviously NOT World War Z (which I'm okay with, as I don't think they would ever make a good movie of it anyway), so I feel that they should have just gone another route with the name, and shouldn't have squandered the movie rights for something that's not much related. Zombies are a big sell right now, and they most likely would have a big box office turnout on its own, especially with Brad Pitt. 


I think they could have pulled off making WWZ almost exactly like the book.  The only problem IMO would be the ending.  Movies need a twist/cliff hanger or a good climax.  The way the book was written does not leave a lot of room for this.

The interviews would go exactly like in the book except when the person is telling the story they flash back each time and show the unraveling from multiple angles.
Well the book does have somewhat ofa possible cliffhanger with the mention that there are still zeds around on the ocean floors and lakes ready to infect, plus that fact that they believe that the whole north Korean nation may be undead below ground just waiting for the unwary to release them upon the world.

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They're already the mainstream again, my friend!

The main issue for me is that I'm bummed that they're using the WWZ name to sell this movie. It's obviously NOT World War Z (which I'm okay with, as I don't think they would ever make a good movie of it anyway), so I feel that they should have just gone another route with the name, and shouldn't have squandered the movie rights for something that's not much related. Zombies are a big sell right now, and they most likely would have a big box office turnout on its own, especially with Brad Pitt. 


I think they could have pulled off making WWZ almost exactly like the book.  The only problem IMO would be the ending.  Movies need a twist/cliff hanger or a good climax.  The way the book was written does not leave a lot of room for this.

The interviews would go exactly like in the book except when the person is telling the story they flash back each time and show the unraveling from multiple angles.
Well the book does have somewhat ofa possible cliffhanger with the mention that there are still zeds around on the ocean floors and lakes ready to infect, plus that fact that they believe that the whole north Korean nation may be undead below ground just waiting for the unwary to release them upon the world.


That would have made for a good ending IMO, but I doubt it would have got the big gasps from the audience, but think about it: Before the end of the movie have them talk about the Z's and how they do not need to breathe, can live under water etc etc and then at the end of the movie have a shot of the ocean and maybe the camera starts to dive into the ocean and goes deeper and deeper until you see a herd of walkers all trying to make their way to shore and then cut to a family trying to enjoy the sunny day by the beach....or maybe show the beach full of people.

That would be pretty sweet.

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     http://www.eonline.com/news/363503/brad-pitt-world-war-z-zombie-reshoots-upstaged-by-cute-cat 

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Yeah, we'll see. There's been a lot of drama on the set, apparently. The script they ended up using was completely rewritten and different from the script they started with (which apparently took a pretty different approach), just exemplifying how production has changed direction from the start which probably left a lot of people unprepared. And like one of the articles says, the reason the movie isn't coming out this year is because they had to reshoot a shit-load of the movie. In most instances, reshoots are an encouraging occurrence, as it costs money and shows that the studio is putting more money into the film because it has faith in it. But in instances like this, I wonder if they are reshooting to refine their product or if they're reshooting because things are not looking so good. 

And there are reports that at the end of production, Brad Pitt and director Marc Forster weren't even on talking terms. So if they decide to make it a series (which will, I believe, ultimately depend on how it does at the box office; typical business stratagem), I doubt that the director will remain. That is, assumingly, that Brad Pitt's production company [Plan B] still holds the rights to the franchise.

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