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i was reading mother earth news magazine at work the other day and i was reading about how this man wayne keith  made a pick up run on wood. he uses them for everyday work and to me in a world low on gas(like when the zombies come) this seem like a good mod. to have or learn how to do.

You every hear of this before?

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This mod is ok if you want to travel at a snail's pace. It is also very dangerous to do if you do not do it right. It requires putting wood into a chamber pot, and having fire heat that pot and the natural gas from the wood being heated facilitates the combustion for the carb. Oh yeah this will not work on diesel or fuel injected cars. Which is pretty much all that exists these days.
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i was reading mother earth news magazine at work the other day and i was reading about how this man wayne keith  made a pick up run on wood. he uses them for everyday work and to me in a world low on gas(like when the zombies come) this seem like a good mod. to have or learn how to do.

You every hear of this before?

Wood gasification has been used around the world for over several decades.
I would suggest you do your own research before listening to any forum experts claiming will not work.
For example, Here is a video of one of several of Wayne Keiths wood gas trucks going faster than "a snails pace".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=b_4Mxldx_ck

While you are doing your own research you will find that yes you can use wood gas with fuel injected and diessel engines and people claiming flat out "will not work" are just wrong.


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Yes, in an ideal situation where you have the enginuity to develope this technology(which is not difficult, but time consuming) As well as being able to continue through with the gasification process by not damaging your motor with the tar byproduct.

By snails pace, what I meant was not the actual driving speed, but rather the amount of time it would take to fire up the chamber and have the wood produce the gas.

In a PAW it would be an ideal means of travel as long as you kept the fire going, and the fuel supply replenished. Also, I was mistaking about fuel inject and diesel, but found that it would only work with diesel motors only when mixed with diesel. Like a hybrid.

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Wood gasification is certainly a valid option in PAW/ZPAW.  The main drawbacks are:

-Even the smallest wood gasifiers for automotive applications are bulky, and will take up a lot of your cargo space.
-They have a long start up time.  It's not "key turning" proposition.
-Even if the gasifier is well engineered, there is an added fire hazard not normally associated with driving.

There is another option, think "Flex Fuel" vehicles.  E85 is essentially moonshine with additives to prevent human consumption.  Most "Flex Fuel" vehicles can run on 100% ethanol with no negative effects.  Advantages are:

-No conversion necessary on existing "Flex Fuel" vehicles.
-Instant start-up.
-Retain original cargo capacity and vehicle functionality.

Drawbacks:

-Requires someone to manufacture it.  (Resource and labor intensive)
-Hydroscopic, longterm storage is a problem.

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Let's face it.  Unless you happen to live in a state with oil wells and a oil processing plant, fuel will soon become a long term problem as local wood resources dwindle, technical machinery fails or trained personnel die in a PAW.

Suggestion....Get a horse!  Mankind went many centuries with just horsepower. When and until technology is re-developed (decades? centuries?), it will be like the middle ages for any people who do survive.

One other suggestion...buy an electric car for short term. Then produce electricity using hand, water or horse power rotating an induction coil.  With the proper gearing, you might provide an amp or more at low voltage.  It will take a while to charge car batteries, but plenty for a radio.  Battery life will become a issue long term.

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Speaking of electric cars and how to charge them. There is a lot of home made wind and bicycle powered generator videos on youtube that might be interesting.
I would imagine there would be a lot of golf carts to be had for short supply trips.


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The National Military Vehicle Preservation Association this months Army Motors magazine has a good articale on the WW2 German vehicles use of the gas producers.

I've studied the subject for some time even thinking of building one but, I've found I'd rather find another mode of transportation. However, I do believe this type of device could be useful as a power supply if stationary. I would redesign the layout and try to find an engine more suitable for such a use. A large multifuel engine might be in order. I would use it to drive an electric generator. If I had to I'd use it to recharge batteries for an (oh my god, thought I'd never say this) electric automobile. As much as I hate to say it the battery powered vehicle would be safer, and easier to deal with. The biggest problem with any of these types of transport and devices are they are very wasteful and just take to much maintenance and will not hold up in the long run.

I do believe oil and gasoline engines are still our only reliable means of transport. It will take years before a good replacement is fond.

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