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the good part about being poor....cheap dehydrated food in bulk...im talking ramen, betty crocker mashed potatoes, cans of corn and other various crap....tons of frozen hot dogs and chicken patties etc etc etc....and sugar. Tons of boxes of jello and pudding and other crap...yanno the unhealthy shit, ..thats the stuff with tons of carbs and sugar, the essentials for survival food


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"betty crocker mashed potatoes"

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I knew there was something else i wasnt thinking of. I used to eat that stuff 2 times a day when i was younger, i should get some of that and add it to the stash.

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Actually, kkamikazekidd, that kind of stuff makes great stored food, for the short term. Most of that kind of processed grade 'A' American food will last many months, perhaps a couple of years if stored in a cool dry pantry. In any real emergency like the ones I was positing, a solid week or two of food should be enough to weather the storm, whatever the storm may be.

I also keep some of that type of food in the house too. The other freeze dried and dried foods I have so I  dn't need to do some type of rotation thing like a good food storage system requires. I'm just too lazy for all that nonsense. The food I have stored will last 20 to 30 years as is. By then I'll be old and grey and won't give a hoot anyhow.

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theres lots of squirrel and birds in my area, id use my pellet gun to bag some of them, or lay traps on my roof

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Have you ever eaten squirrel? It kind of sucks. Have lots of ketchup...


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Have you ever eaten squirrel? It kind of sucks. Have lots of ketchup...



its to lean if you ask me and trust me ketchup still wont help =P
marinate it in sauce and dehydrate it... them good eats

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Don't forget the Booze! GREAT TRADE ITEM!! I've got about 2 cases of random liquor.


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salt....salt....and more salt.....I couldnt eat another human without salt...or cure his/her meaty ass


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I know we have at least 22 gal. of water and a shit ton of ramen (assorted flavors).... and 2 extra bags of kitty food, and a one mega-bulk of toilet paper. I mean, don't waste your water washing your hands that you wiped your ass with.... >.>

I take the water thing seriously, you can't survive without water for 3 days, food for 3 weeks, and sex for 3 months. Ha!

Off and on I have been stocking our pantry with cans of soup and chef-boy-ardee... (with pop off ring-tops) Because in a run-for-it situation I'd be the asshole that forgot the can-opener.

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Sorry for the double post, but I have a question: canned salmon has the best shelf life, since I'm considering to add them to my stash, does anyone have a good recipe for salmon??


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Lets see.  When H1N1 occurred several years ago preceded by the Avian Flu, my wife freaked out after listening to one of the consultants she works with who is a disaster planning expert.  Due to this, we went out and purchased the following:

6 months worth of Mountain Home Food.  We have just about everything and lots of variety.  In addition, we have lots of canned goods, noodles, and jarred stuff.  Also the stuff that my son and I go hiking with, probably 2 weeks worth just laying about for 3 people.  That will go first followed by the Mountain Home stuff.  Also around 10 5gallon bottles of water plus the 2 we use in the water machine (tap water is poison)

We also have heirloom seeds for 5 complete truck gardens for 5 people.  Good for trading, survival, etc. 

Lots of tools (never know what you will need) and ammo plus the makings for around another 2000 to 3000 rounds of various caliber.

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My thinking is unless the ZPAW happens in late Winter/ early Spring, food is going to be a long term issue until you can plant and those crops come in. 

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Lets see.  When H1N1 occurred several years ago preceded by the Avian Flu, my wife freaked out after listening to one of the consultants she works with who is a disaster planning expert.  Due to this, we went out and purchased the following:

6 months worth of Mountain Home Food.  We have just about everything and lots of variety.  In addition, we have lots of canned goods, noodles, and jarred stuff.  Also the stuff that my son and I go hiking with, probably 2 weeks worth just laying about for 3 people.  That will go first followed by the Mountain Home stuff.  Also around 10 5gallon bottles of water plus the 2 we use in the water machine (tap water is poison)

We also have heirloom seeds for 5 complete truck gardens for 5 people.  Good for trading, survival, etc. 

Lots of tools (never know what you will need) and ammo plus the makings for around another 2000 to 3000 rounds of various caliber.

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My thinking is unless the ZPAW happens in late Winter/ early Spring, food is going to be a long term issue until you can plant and those crops come in. 



What is "heirloom" seed??

Us city guys got to know!

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What is "heirloom" seed??

Us city guys got to know!

It's non-hybrid seed that allows the use of that plant's seeds to grow new plants. 

A lot of the commercially available seed is hybrid seed, and plants either don't germinate or are much less useful from the resulting seeds.  Therefore requiring you to buy new seed every season. 

You can see how that would become troubling in SHTF.

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To AvtomatJ's point, heirloom seeds are pretty much required to grow anything.  You can find great package sales at http://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/

I would recommend going multiple packages as you might have to replant several times to get through the rougher periods, plus you can use them as trade goods, etc.  They will be worth many times their weight in gold and are light as hell and easy to pack.  I think the entire 5 gardens worth of seeds weighs something like 4 or 5lbs.  Each person would carry a garden if the SHTF alone with food, water, etc. 

I am currently thinking of buying another 3 or 4 gardens just to be safe.  You never know.

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Also, another thing to consider is grain.  Un-milled grain stored properly can last pretty much forever.  My wife and I just bought an electric mill (can also be hand cranked) to mill our own flour from the various organic grains we buy.  Now, the milled grain goes south in 3 or 4 days so you have to use it quickly but man, it makes the best bread I have ever tasted.  Exceptional!
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Also, another thing to consider is grain.  Un-milled grain stored properly can last pretty much forever.  My wife and I just bought an electric mill (can also be hand cranked) to mill our own flour from the various organic grains we buy.  Now, the milled grain goes south in 3 or 4 days so you have to use it quickly but man, it makes the best bread I have ever tasted.  Exceptional!


So how do you store un-milled grain (type?) in order to max out lifetime?? 

In IL, I have seen many silos, but I always wondered how long is it good for when stored in a silo...

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Tuperware.....hahahahaha


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Indigo, you are not far from the truth.  We use large 5 gallon plastic resealable containers.  Similar to what you see in the hardware stores for drywall mud, etc.  These are of course higher quality and provide better seals.  I can store the grain in the proper environment pretty much indefinitely.
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Just realized you had a second question in your post DocT.  We have rye, wheat, and 1 other type (can't think of name right now).  We currently have 10 gallons of each grain but I am thinking of expanding that a bit to about 30 of each.
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