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To battle the zombie hordes I would be armed to the teeth. First I would bring a bullet proof vest and a utility belt with ammunition and bombs in it's pouches. Then I would have a shit load of bombs like pipe bombs,grenades,smoke bombs,fire bombs,carbon dioxide bombs and many more. I would be armed with a 12-gauged pump-action shotgun,M16,MAC-10,Tec-9,assault rifle,an Uzi,and many others. I would bring different types of knives with me and I would rig the whole city with time bombs and detonate the bombs destroying the whole if I'm in trouble and have no other choice.This is DEV speaking.

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Hi, DEV!

Welcome to the forum.

That said, I feel it is my responsibility--nay, my duty--to check your roll, bro.

Weight issue aside, the inclusion of a MAC-10 and a TEC-9 on your weapons list makes me bite my lower lip. I mean no offense. I simply say this so that we can begin to forge you into a leaner, meaner zombie-killin' machine.

Drop the grenades and random bombs. They won't be as useful against the living dead as they are against the living. (Grenades inflict most of their damage through a concussive blast of air rather than shrapnel, which stops our hearts but wouldn't bother a zombie.) You can use the weight you're saving to carry some first aid supplies in your pack.

Good choice with the M-16. Stick with that. Dump the shotgun and the gangbanger firearms. The Uzi is a pray-and-spray weapon; it will eat your ammo stores for breakfast. Replace it with a reliable semiautomatic pistol. All of this'll knock another 50 pounds of weight off your load. You can spend that weight allowance on extra ammo and magazines for the weapons you kept. (And you won't nearly use it; 5 pounds, max)

Knives are always a good idea. As Soap once said, "Knives are good, because they don't make any noise, and the less noise they make, the more likely we are to use 'em. Shit 'em right up. Makes 'em think we're serious. Guns for show. Knives for a pro." Definitely have a knife on hand. Always. Even if there are no zombies. Always have a knife. You don't need knives, you just need a knife.

But you should probably take a larger blade for close-quarters or silent work as well. Consider a machete or an ax, or if you have several thousand dollars for a quality piece, something more exotic like a sword. User choice. But make it something you're comfortable with.

You have to think about entering a situation like that from the perspective of actually going through with it: what would you need to not just kick ass, but stay alive? If you went in with your current loadout, you would do some heavy damage, and then die--mainly due to not being able to move because of all that weight, but also because you'd have too high a profile, tossing grenades and rattling off a mag from the Uzi here and there.

Aside from weapons, a few things you should consider carrying into any hostile situation, especially zombies:

--Food & potable water
--First aid & hygiene gear
--2 pair fresh socks & foot powder (trust me)
--Leatherman or other multitool
--Flashlight
--Chem-lights
--Binoculars

Most of this is pretty self-explanatory.

The chem-lights will come in handy if you have to bunker down for the night. They'll save your flashlight. They're also useful in buildings or rubble-strewn areas; they can mark the path back to the exit.

The socks...well, you'll thank me for the socks.


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Thanks for the tips but I think I'll have to disagree with the shotgun because a shotgun can in one blow especially if you fire it at it's head. By playing resident evil I've learned 2 ways to kill a zombie and that is #1 dameage of the head and #2 Incineration. Also FYI I would get my food by breaking into food markets and I'm planning on keeping my bombs and grenades with me.

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Fair enough on the shotgun. It's just not my cup of tea because of the noise and the limited amount of spare ammo I'd be able to carry and the short range and the small magazine, but to each their own.

I'm afraid I'll have to be adamant on the food issue, however. To go into an unknown situation without food on you is ludicrous, quite frankly. Why would you want to do that to yourself? It'd be like hiking into the mountains with no food and assuming you'll be back in time for dinner. Carry food, several days' worth, and an equal amount of water.

Carry the bombs and grenades if you must, but you have to enter the city on the opposite end from me. That way within an hour all the zombies will be moving away from my position. (the explosions having given yours away.)

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By playing resident evil I've learned 2 ways to kill a zombie



Does someone wanna take this one for me?

RCS? Sage? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?


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 By playing resident evil I've learned...



Here's some life lessons I've learned from Resident Evil


-Resident Evil taught me that food is never an issue.

-Eats some funky colored weeds and you're fine.

-Zombie bites you? just walk it off, you wont get infected.

-Injured? Theres a spray for that, dont be a pussy.

-Kill the brain? No need, just shoot the body enough and the brain magicaly dies.

-You can use grenade launchers at point blank range, shrapnel is a myth.

-If you need something important, look for a time consuming puzzle, then
you'll get it.

-In the middle of zombie killing rampage, its never  a bad time to read
someones journal

-Stock Prices are low for Umbrella, as they are very prone to industrial accidents.

-Shotguns, grenades, rockets, who cares how loud they are, they make me look cool, and the sound wont offend any pesky zombie.

-You can carry an amount of equipment which is back breakingly heavy and still run around and solve puzzles.

-One of your friends is bound to stab you in the back.

-Some very large man in a creepy trench coat will be stalking you out.

-And some type of animal will become larger, and more zombie like.

-Set a zombie on fire, he will be incinerated within seconds.





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Z has a pellet gun......that is all


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If I could carry as much as I could in Resident Evil, then I'd choose the infinite rocket launcher and some green herb.  Not making fun, trying to prove a point; video games and movies are shit for intel.


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From reading Max Brooks Zombie Survival Guide, I would go with the following

1 long range rifle with scope
1 Handgun, maybe a 9mm Berreta.
A crowbar for my hand to hand encounters, also relatively lightweight and good for gaining access to boarded up buildings etc.
K bar knife.
Spare clothes, socks etc
Water purification tablets
Sealed army type rations
Leather jacket and trousers, black, cause they're bite proof and I'd look cool.
Cigarettes.
a dirt bike. Lighweight, long range, low on fuel consumption, manouverable in tight spaces and speedy acceleration.

Survival mentalism will pay off one day.

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if were playing by video game rules, id like the spartan armor from HALO and a chaingun with unlimited ammo.

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This is what I've learned from Resident Evil.

1. No matter what, weed makes it better.
2. Apparently weed prevents infection too.
3. If you solve a rubiks cube, you'll unlock a door.
4. Bullets magically appear in the chambers of Miniguns.
5. There will always be someone who loses their accent.
6. Somone will always still wanna get into your pants.
7. A lizard can look like anything, just use your imagination!

Resident Evil is fun, just try not to apply the principles of it in real life.

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hello all
i dont post much but i read a lot of the threads and i couldent help but comment
in my kit bag id have several changed if kit (basic clothes, equipment webbing spares and a set of waterproofs)

about 10 days worth of mre meals and a couple water skins ( easier to pack away when empty)
my pair of hard wearing boots
mess tins and eating utensils
a lee enfield bolt-action riflewith a decent scope( plain glass no extras)
a p99 pistol with a silencer , extended clip, laser sight preferably loaded with either hollowpoint or dum dum 9mm bullets
a 10 inch non serrated steel hunting knife

and last but not least my chainmail shirt
ow i know what your probably thinking , hes gone all lord of the rings but id like to argue the case of suing it though it may only be valid to me
first off i m fully comfortable with the weight and can function practically indefinitly with it on ( i have worn it for extended periods before)

secondly though it does make some noise with a little modification in the form of gaffa tape this can be minimized

thirdly it protects most mof my arms neck and all of my torso

and finally the steel quality is up to scratch so it could probably take a bite without my getting infected though the bite pressure could probably break a bone

as a case point id like to point out that i can run faster than most people i know when im im my chainmail

i await  your judgements


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What's the attraction of the suppressor for the pistol? The P99 is a nice one.

Nice Dresden quote by the way.
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What's the attraction of the suppressor for the pistol? The P99 is a nice one.

Nice Dresden quote by the way.

the suppressor always stemmed from my need to have a medium ranged weapon that dosent ring the proverbial dinner bell for miles around
id slap one on the lee enfield but i know that just aint happening

always loved the p99 ever since the bond films with pierce brosnin, a year later i found out that its actually a decent side arm

thank you very much
dresden would down right own in a zombie apocalypse



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LORD OF THE RINGS

see with a little modification lord of the rings could be scripted into the most epic medevil zombie film ever


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I wonder how the giant eye would fit in though....luckily, with peter jackson's mind we could have a world class z movie by this time next year.

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I wonder how the giant eye would fit in though....luckily, with peter jackson's mind we could have a world class z movie by this time next year.

it could be a falling satilite
world war z is apparently apparently being made into a movie so ownage

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I think the insistance upon the shotgun is telling.  Not to be a dick, but in nutrition they call this approach "scattergunning it."  In other words, you take everything, hoping that you have what you need and praying that the extra won't harm you.  It just seems as though the OP has never had the utilities go out.

Assuming these are Morningstar zeds, and a mix of living infected and deadzies, and I had to cross a city, I'd take:
medium-caliber, high cap semi auto carbine (I like my WASR, and I'm familiar with it).  I could also stand to go bolt gun here, and in that case, my choice would be a mosin M44 with 147-150 gr SP rounds on stripper clips.
Extra mags for the carbine (if I have to set a limit, I'd go with 7 total mags, but wouldn't be upset if I could only carry a total of five).
Crowbar (urban to suburban), OR Axe/tomahawk (suburban to rural), OR either a machete or kukri (rural)

72-hour bag, perhaps stripped for speed.  I'm setting this up now, but it would need basic first aid, clean, weather-appropriate clothing, food and mess kit, water and purifier tabs, weather-appropriate sleeping bag, hygeine stuff, knife sharpener, leatherman, para-cord, duct/hockey tape.  I'm sure I'm missing something.

The single most important thing I'd bring with me is a COMPETENT TEAM with a varied and complimentary base of experience/expertice.  I'd like at least three other members, preferably including one resident of the area I'm crossing.  I wouldn't mind an archer or two among my group, and might insist on at least one.  A dedicated marksman would be great, armed with a longer-range bolt action rifle.  Naturally, a field medic-type would be excellent in the group, or a specialized melee nut whose longest-range weapon is an extended middle finger.  Even with only 4 people, you really increase your chances of survival.  If alone, it would make far more sense to go around a populated area than through it, even if you ran out of food and had to use your water purifier tabs. 

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A dedicated marksman would be great, armed with a longer-range bolt action rifle.  Naturally, a field medic-type would be excellent in the group, or a specialized melee nut whose longest-range weapon is an extended middle finger.


hey i fit two out of 3 roles maybe even 3 if you count my skills in carving meat as a medical qualification


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I think the insistance upon the shotgun is telling.  Not to be a dick, but in nutrition they call this approach "scattergunning it."  In other words, you take everything, hoping that you have what you need and praying that the extra won't harm you.  It just seems as though the OP has never had the utilities go out.


Yeah, I totally agree. I'm not sure poor ol' DEV has ever actually hiked a mile, much less carried a loadout of gear even that far. Once you have, you start to consider things like "Maybe I shouldn't strap fifteen guns on my back. And maybe I should bring some water and food."

Those of us who have I am certain all got the same humorous image reading the original post in this thread: that of the poster, stooped half over with a mountain of firearms hanging off of him, struggling to take his next step...then hearing some zombies closing in, throwing a pipe bomb, summoning fifty more zombies who heard the blast, and getting devoured while trying to drop all of his guns and run.

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It would draw more than fifty.Yeah I never carried that much before.

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I've walked a couple miles at a time, but I only had once with gear on my back. It was only 15 or so pounds, but after walking through the fucking woods in 85 degree heat for a few miles made it real damn tiring.


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Heheh, yeah, exactly--people underestimate weight. They'll pick up fifty pounds and say, "Hey, I can carry this." Which is true. They can. But after a few miles of carrying it, they're suddenly not so willing. It's like every step adds a psychological pound to the weight you've got on your back.

It's tricky finding that balance between bringing enough gear for contingencies and not bringing enough to weigh you down and tire you out.

That was one of the pearls of wisdom that managed to find its way into Brooks' Survival Guide (a pearl amongst swine, as it were). Try on your gear and wear it around for a full day to make sure you're comfortable in it.


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Even if I have the right gear being in Ohio during the outbreak isn't my first choice.

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I was looking at Ebay land listings the other day. There are a ton of really shitty properties for extremely cheap there...though the only reason they're really shitty is because they're out in the middle of nowhere. They'd be perfect for a group of people to buy up and turn into a compound. We're talking a couple hundred bucks for a 5-acre parcel on some of these desolate strips of foothills and desert. For several thousand you could buy up a hillside or half a small valley.

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