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Ok my question is after the zpaw how long do we have until all of our nuke plants her in the states all go Chernobyl? I have heard two different rumors about it. One says that they will all go up like that, it was on the History channel when people are gone, and the other says that safety circuits will shut them down so they won't go up. Any thoughts or anyone out there know the real truth?? 


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Look at Japan a month and a half ago.

We're so screwed.

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Japan? Why, did something happen?
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Nothing serious, they just had a little hitch, is all.

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Yeah just a little hitch.  LOL!!!
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Seriously though,  a  ZPAW  is NOT instantaneous, so the operators will shutdown the plant the best they can, as people leave to check on their families. If everyone runs, safety circuits will shutdown the plant as serious problems pop up on the computers (assuming water cooling is still running).

Long term, the plant will eventually meltdown, unless they have an un-interrupted water cooling systems. The core will remain relatively warm, because the rods are too close in the core.  Old core rods are routinely stored in separate vessels within cooling ponds outside the plant.  BTW,  you should blaim Obama for this, since he was the one who shutdown the Yucca Mountain nuclear storage facility.

The Japan plants failed not only because of the earthquake, but because the 45 ft. tsunami was higher than the designed 20 ft. defensive structures. The plant lost power to the pumps as they were cutoff from the power grid and the pumps themselves were damaged by the water.  Its still not clear though, if the containment failures were caused by the earthquake or the intense heat of the core melting.


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I would think is a nuke plant is far down the list of problems in a Zpaw. To name a few besides the undead.......lack of everything we take for granted right now.....fresh food, water, gas, ammo, medical treatment, drugs, breakdown of law, wild dog packs, roving gangs, dental treatment, scrip eyeglasses to name a few things. You would basically be living in the 19th century in within a few months.  Pioneer skills would be the thing to have and I imagine some people would thrive in such an environment if they can avoid zombies and raiders. I am guessing if you could get a strong leader to get a community of people with various skills together it might be the way to go. OK done rambling. 
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I would think is a nuke plant is far down the list of problems in a Zpaw. To name a few besides the undead.......lack of everything we take for granted right now.....fresh food, water, gas, ammo, medical treatment, drugs, breakdown of law, wild dog packs, roving gangs, dental treatment, scrip eyeglasses to name a few things. You would basically be living in the 19th century in within a few months.  Pioneer skills would be the thing to have and I imagine some people would thrive in such an environment if they can avoid zombies and raiders. I am guessing if you could get a strong leader to get a community of people with various skills together it might be the way to go. OK done rambling. 


I partly agree but I think nearby plant meltdown and getting radiation poisoning without even knowing is a fair concern that gets looked over too much in this scenario.

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Okay, for all you China Syndrome people out there, I was a Nuclear Engineer in the US Navy for 9 long tedious years. I know a thing or ten about Nuclear Power plants and Nuclear weapons. Having shown my credentials...

A nuclear power plant just about anywhere in the world except maybe China or North Korea, has numerous saftey systems with several layers of backups. Unless a natural disaster, like Japan, or a massive fire, like Chernobyl, occured, the plant would shut itself down inside of a few days, even without outside human aid. 99.9% of nuclear plants in the civilized world would be perfectly safe.

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Good to know. 
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Except the one near you would be run by Homer, and it would cook off. Murphys law...


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Oh brother, I work at numerous Nuclear plants every year.  Nothing would happen if you walked away from them!  Everything is computer controlled and things would shut down without attention. In a worse case senario, and with reactors going super critical it wouldnt matter.  Everything bad is located in a containment dome and is surrounded by12' thick concrete walls.  Think of it this way; on March 29th 1979 unit Two at Three Mile Island had an accident.  To this day nobody goes into unit Two, and nobody ever really will. That said there is no risk of any radiation of contamination getting out of that dome.......

If the ZPAW ever happens nuclear plants will be safe.


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 . . . I think it depends. One of the things we did in Nuc School (and continuously for the rest of training time on the boats) was theorize what would happen to our plants if everyone just Raptured away.
 
The prevalent idea was that, taking our reactor plant history into consideration, without people to maintain the plant, it would be something like three days before it shut down, mostly due to stupid little leaks.
 
And yes, plants would shut themselves down, but if make-up water ever stopped, decay heat would continue to rise. I would think that for commercial plants that run at capacity, this would be higher and last longer.
 
Is that not the case?

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Navy nuc school.  That suckers got a high wash out rate....  I worked at Zetec with a few guys from that school.  The Navy nuc program is pretty cool.

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It is! I had never studied in my life before nuc school. And it's funny, the job I do now has almost nothing to do with it, but the people that do the hiring see it on my resume and know that I can learn stuff quickly.


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More info....

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/05/world/asia/japan-radioactive-water-leak/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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