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Any non-zombies are welcome to my crew, as you can see i have plenty of weapons to arm them


This quote from Biggin got me thinking about that zombie out break game were you can tweak the amount of armed citizens and the accuracy. With only 50% of the population armed and a 40% hit rate most outbreaks can be contained with causalities of course. But with only 10% of the population armed it would probably be over for the human race unless the z's were extremely slow.
So anyway I took a look at some stats and I would say if anyone can come out on top the US would with 90 guns per 100 people. The most fucked would probably be China with only 3.5 per 100 and a massive population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership


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Well hopefully China will get fucked soon. Otherwise they're gonna fuck US soon.
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LOL yeah we hope that since they bought US bonds by trillions of dollars, they had us by the balls which is sad
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Well hopefully China will get fucked soon. Otherwise they're gonna fuck US soon.


China will just get fucked when we go bankrupt!! With Obama as President that will be sooner rather than later...I am going to buy a wheel barrel, so I can carry all the green backs needed to buy a loaf of bread in a few years.

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That makes me think of a pic I saw in History on friday. It was a german woman after WW1 burning tons of cash in a stove to keep her house warm.

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Sounds like my old furnace.

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There's just one thing this list is not taking into consideration. I'm not sure if it is also taking into account all the illegal guns that are owned in the countries mentioned.
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In countries like China, I would think there are very few illegal guns. Owning anything illegal can get one dead very quick in communist nations. Besides, although there may be crime and criminals, who is selling illegal guns?

As far as nations such as the UK, where gun ownership is sort of against the law (I am not an expert on the gun laws is the UK, so I hessitate to be too very specific) again, no one is selling guns since no one has them. Anyone in the UK that can verify if illegal guns are obtainable?

Here in the US of A, since owning guns is legal and just about anyone can buy and/or sell a gun, it isn't that hard to obtain a gun illegally, not that I have any illegal guns . As far as the number of guns per person being at 90 out of a hundred, I am willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that a very small fraction of that 100 people actually has those 90 guns. Distribution would be the problem during a very quick Zpaw. I own 4 guns. I can only shoot one at a time. The other 3 don't do me a lot of good if I'm being swamped by RCs and I'm alone.  As long as I can find 3 other people I trust to use my guns (not on me) the four guns I own are useful. I know people with dozens of guns. They have the same problem but multiplied.

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As far as China, I've read their economy isn't much better off than ours. They may own a bunch of dollars (rapidly becomeing worthless) but they can't spend them or dump them since that would cause a world collapse of the dollar and make all the rest of the dollars they own worth even less. Also, if the US economy fails and goes bankrupt, who is going to buy up all of their goods? If no one buys their TVs and radios their economy goes south too. This world economy thing we got going is about to screw everyone. Buy guns, ammunition and freeze dried food. The PAW is unlikely to have any Z's but it's coming.


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The PAW is unlikely to have any Z's but it's coming.


Yeah, that's gonna be fuckin' shitty. I have absolutely no idea what living in a collapsed nation would be like.

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what you aren't taking into account is that the USA owns shit tons of gold. Plus do you know how many other nations let us secure their gold, for a percentage of course. America is fine.
All that oil in the Gulf and Texas is ours, Alaska, about 50% or so of the off-shore oil rigs are owned by american companies.
And one more thing, do you have any idea how many billions of dollars our government provides in assistance to developing countries? All so that when that country strikes oil, diamonds etc. they will throw a little somethin our way. America has its shit squared away.
And if it really does go to shit we can just annex canada, just sayin........

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While that may be the reality (I'll take your word for it, as you would probably know a lot more about it than a 20 year old college student), the reason you don't see that stuff as much around here is because most of us have our sights set on an apocalypse of some kind. Odds are, the actual worldly events will unfold in a way that is nothing like what we imagine in our little fantasy heads, but that's more or less the kind of shit we end up talking about.

Regardless, I'm super glad you've been posting lately, cause it's awesome to hear what you have to say. Accurate or not (I'm not saying it isn't accurate, just that one never knows what will happen), your last 3 posts tended to get me thinking about things I haven't thought about.

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rest assured i wish for the ZPAW as much as any other red blooded morningstar strain reader. and when that day does come you are all invited to my fortress of solitude in the north pole...or is it south pole? either way i'll send out smoke signals when the time comes
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Notice switzerland at #3.  its not that they have an abundance of drunk rednecks, or gangbangers. after their howevwer long compulsory military service, they go to reserve status. and reservists keep their weapons and gear at their home.  So pretty much each gun owner is a trained soldier. thats always been the basis of swiss nuetrality back to pikemen days.

as to how that impacts zombie apocalypse. well, i would say trained soldier much more effective than scarede housewife. or stockbroker compendsating for a small penis by owning a desert eagle, or gangbanger so whacked on meth he cant tell what he's shooting, or the majority of u.s casual shooters/hunters.  Something as simple as fire discipline makes a massive difference.

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Man, Nyghtreaver, those are some pretty broad assumptions you've made in reguards to 'typical' american gun owners. 


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Well, he did list the casual shooters at the end, there.
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Rednecks? hell yeah! The Fighting Rednecks.....has a good ring to it no? 

 "trained soldier" yeah they covered the living dead in boot camp I think....... please, also ALL trained soldiers practice for center mass shots. I think the pissedoff unhappy housewifes will have a better shot at survival.....


Also China would nuke em in a heartbeat.


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granted i did use very broad generalities, but was more to make a point than to pick on any group.  Against l;iving enemies spray and pray works somewhat, and a lot of american gun owners fall into that category. Not saying anyone here, but i know serveral people from various walks of life who when doing target practice rattle off serveral clips then cheer when they see 2 have hit center mass.

 My main point was, Switzerland would be  very very interesting case study for a zombie apocalypse. No other Modernized country i know of has its reservists keep their weapons at home.  

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The guys I go shooting with make fun of folks that shoot like you describe.  Those people are idiots that just like to make a lot of noise, and they would be better served with fireworks.

Yeah, Switzerland would make a very interesting case.  They're interesting not only because they keep their military small arms at home, but that they are usually very good shots with them aswell.  However, I think they're only allowed to have (or maybe it is issued) about 60rds at home.  That wouldn't last very long, no matter how good of a shot someone is.

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granted i did use very broad generalities, but was more to make a point than to pick on any group.  Against l;iving enemies spray and pray works somewhat, and a lot of american gun owners fall into that category. Not saying anyone here, but i know serveral people from various walks of life who when doing target practice rattle off serveral clips then cheer when they see 2 have hit center mass.

 My main point was, Switzerland would be  very very interesting case study for a zombie apocalypse. No other Modernized country i know of has its reservists keep their weapons at home.  


Not 100% sure but I think the IDF Isiral does

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As far as nations such as the UK, where gun ownership is sort of against the law (I am not an expert on the gun laws is the UK, so I hessitate to be too very specific) again, no one is selling guns since no one has them. Anyone in the UK that can verify if illegal guns are obtainable?


Illegal guns can be aquired in the U.K, shotguns and various pistols are the common. Occasionally AK47's and Mac 10's appear due to the Yardie influence.

Some of the hand guns have been re-activated, so can be dodgey. Ammunition is few and far between. If you were able to acquire a Glock, you' probs only get about 6 rounds for it.

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As far as nations such as the UK, where gun ownership is sort of against the law (I am not an expert on the gun laws is the UK, so I hessitate to be too very specific) again, no one is selling guns since no one has them. Anyone in the UK that can verify if illegal guns are obtainable?


Illegal guns can be aquired in the U.K, shotguns and various pistols are the common. Occasionally AK47's and Mac 10's appear due to the Yardie influence.

Some of the hand guns have been re-activated, so can be dodgey. Ammunition is few and far between. If you were able to acquire a Glock, you' probs only get about 6 rounds for it.


So what you are truly saying is that there is this huge black market in weapons and ammo, which is supplying all the folks that want something. So if you want to get rich fast, become an "importer".

Sounds like Prohibition in the late 20's here. Look at how that turned out with the rise of organized crime. That's also how the Kennedy clan got their millions, then became legit.

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Well... Going back to pissed off housewives...  My money on best chance to survive is to get anywhere near my mother.  That woman could take out an army of zombies by herself if she gets pissed enough.  And that's not an insult.  Give me a pissed off mother over a "highly trained individual" any day.  Mothers have that whole reach into the mouth of a lion thing going on. 

In fact, when the PAW comes, give me an elite crack unit of "highly trained individuals" and their moms who had to deal with their unruly asses.  I betcha we form some sort of crazy nation right off the bat and fend off the hordes of undead/mutants.

While this post is mostly tongue and cheek, I'm also kind of serious.  Think about it.  Who can handle you and anything you throw at them better than even the most experienced drill sergeant?  Your momma!  (Granted, this might not be true for a select few, but on the average...) 

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As far as nations such as the UK, where gun ownership is sort of against the law (I am not an expert on the gun laws is the UK, so I hessitate to be too very specific) again, no one is selling guns since no one has them. Anyone in the UK that can verify if illegal guns are obtainable?


Illegal guns can be aquired in the U.K, shotguns and various pistols are the common. Occasionally AK47's and Mac 10's appear due to the Yardie influence.

Some of the hand guns have been re-activated, so can be dodgey. Ammunition is few and far between. If you were able to acquire a Glock, you' probs only get about 6 rounds for it.


So what you are truly saying is that there is this huge black market in weapons and ammo, which is supplying all the folks that want something. So if you want to get rich fast, become an "importer".

Sounds like Prohibition in the late 20's here. Look at how that turned out with the rise of organized crime. That's also how the Kennedy clan got their millions, then became legit.


Nah, to many kids are dying over here from gun crime. Old Bill are clamping down on it big time.

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But opposed to other ways of dying, how does gun crime stack up?


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