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Livy

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Do you think they would particpate in attempting to quash the rising or would they go in to them selves and protect their own compounds?

What are peoples opinions on Blackwater, seem to get a lot of bad press with Iraq.

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They would prolly be the first to turn bandit out of all the military assets the US would call home.

Which would be no surprise considering alot of people the military didn't want to deal with run to them because they have no standards.

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Damm Talon Company Mercs!


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They would prolly be the first to turn bandit out of all the military assets the US would call home.

Which would be no surprise considering alot of people the military didn't want to deal with run to them because they have no standards.


Is there a lot of bad feeling towards Blackwater in the US?

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It seems to me they do all the dirty shit, that sometimes is nessarry.

 Watch Jerico they use the name Ravenwood instead.

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It seems to me they do all the dirty shit, that sometimes is nessarry.

 Watch Jerico they use the name Ravenwood instead.


Yeah watched that.

The press seems to bang on about mercs this, mercs that. I can only speak regarding Brit forces, the private lads have better equipment and are paid appropriately compared to the £16k our lads get for frontline duty and the shit/faulty gear they get.

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Ive heard some things about them which dont paint them in a good light. also when some of thier members are people that the US military doesnt want to be responsible for/recruit in the firstplace u feel a little chill go down ur spine.


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Blackwater = Talon Company = Mercs.   They'd be like the mercs from the new A-Team movie.  
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IMHO all things being equal private companies get things done faster and cheaper than government troops for one reason their hands are not tied by political bullshit and if they don't produce they don't get paid unlike government employees. 
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I live close to black water, im giving serious thought to joining up with them eventually.


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Private armies win wars, catch pirates, and reduce genocide. They ARE a GOOD thing.


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The question Livy asked was in a zed paw would they be out for themselves or help others, not whether they were nessary or cool guys.


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Blackwater Founder Accused of Murder, Encouraging a ‘Christian Crusade’ to Eliminate Islam


The Nation — A former  employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements filed on August 3 in federal court in Virginia. The two men claim that the company’s owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe,” and that Prince’s companies “encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life.”

In their testimony, both men also allege that Blackwater was smuggling weapons into Iraq. One of the men alleges that Prince turned a profit by transporting “illegal” or “unlawful” weapons into the country on Prince’s private planes. They also charge that Prince and other Blackwater executives destroyed incriminating videos, emails and other documents and have intentionally deceived the US State Department and other federal agencies. The identities of the two individuals were sealed out of concerns for their safety. Doe #2 alleges in a sworn declaration that, based on information provided to him by former colleagues, “it appears that Mr. Prince and his employees murdered, or had murdered, one or more persons who have provided information, or who were planning to provide information, to the federal authorities about the ongoing criminal conduct.” In a separate sworn statement, the former US marine who worked for Blackwater in Iraq alleges that he has “learned from my Blackwater colleagues and former colleagues that one or more persons who have provided information, or who were planning to provide information about Erik Prince and Blackwater have been killed in suspicious circumstances.”

Among those leveled by Doe #2 is that Prince “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe”:

To that end, Mr. Prince intentionally deployed to Iraq certain men who shared his vision of Christian supremacy, knowing and wanting these men to take every available opportunity to murder Iraqis. Many of these men used call signs based on the Knights of the Templar, the warriors who fought the Crusades.

Mr. Prince operated his companies in a manner that encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life. For example, Mr. Prince’s executives would openly speak about going over to Iraq to “lay Hajiis out on cardboard.” Going to Iraq to shoot and kill Iraqis was viewed as a sport or game. Mr. Prince’s employees openly and consistently used racist and derogatory terms for Iraqis and other Arabs, such as “ragheads” or “hajiis.”


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dont get me wrong..i dont endorse blackwater....i endorse private armies in general....tens of thousands of lives have been saved in the congo and all over africa thanks to a few hundred men taking on thousands....whole countries have been saved by coups (not that its really a good or bad thing, just saying) ...and it is as american as apple pie...its simple capitalism..if uganda wants to hire me for private security, why not? Now, that being said....Im not sure I would just work for the highest bidder either, there has to be some moral line to it all... the american revolution was won on the backs of private armies, the carribean was cleaned up of piracy thanks to privateers....in general...it is a good thing, blackwater is shady, no doubt, but in general...i like the idea


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now for other smaller private military company that can't get those no-bid contracts like z or Xe(the new name for black-water) they would still do there job of protecting towns just for things they can use.  security contractors, private military contractors or private security contractors are people just like you and i think they will stand and fight if there something it for them.

remember Discharged military personnel make up the majority of Western contractors. I think the small PMC  would help others and do what they could. If for nothing else after it all done they could say " we were the only ones that stood to fight the undead when others ran".

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I would imagine communities of survivors may even hire some of these experts Magnificent Seven style. 
I see a story here for some of you would be writers. A survivors community has zombie and roving bandit problems so they hire some modern day gunslingers. Yes it's been done before a million times but this time we have zombies in the mix. 

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I would imagine communities of survivors may even hire some of these experts Magnificent Seven style. 
I see a story here for some of you would be writers. A survivors community has zombie and roving bandit problems so they hire some modern day gunslingers. Yes it's been done before a million times but this time we have zombies in the mix. 

kurasawa's 7 samurai   a Great Idea Alex


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